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#41 Forlornhope

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Thanks for the review, it looks really nice and I'm looking forward to getting one. If you want a top of the line kit buy the CMR T.11, there is no sink marks and really fine panels and it comes with lots of extras, just be prepared to pay the price and do the work involved.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

The sink mark is there because the runner feeds into an area which changes section ie where the flaps are moulded onto the upper wing piece. The feed ingate goes into a thin section which gets wider then reduces thickness. The thicker plastic holds it's heat longer than the injection time at the ingate and during the dwell time it shrinks. It's not easy to cure and depending on other factors it can't always be predicted.  The fix is so easy.

 

I'm actually puzzled by the transverse hump in the floor as the nosewheel box projects into the cockpit only on the centreline and not right across.

 

The seats Miggers mentioned are available but I need to get one of these kits to check for fit.

 

 

Oh and for those advocating the CMR kit, the fuselage is wrong and seems to mirror the errors in the AV News drawings (Huntley).

 

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Edited by John Aero, 04 February 2013 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:42 PM

Good that we can (maybe) get the seats.

John thanks for the technical stuff, easier to understand what happened now. Also never knew that about the CMK kit, good to know in a way even the expensive end can get it wrong.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

Gentlemen, may I ask that you all start off by acting in a way that befits the term?  This review has been left open for people to discuss the kit, not call each other names.

 

Seldom do I see such hyperbole spouted in greeting of a new kit than with Airfix and/or a much loved British subject.  Of course we all want every kit to be perfect, and we're getting closer as the years go by, but I've never seen anything so silly as a bunch of grown men bitching about a small sink mark as if it were the end of the world.  Anyone caught inciting the use of modelling skills to remove this small blemish is branded as a "fan boy", and then the fur begins to fly.  The laugh is that most of you haven't even got the kit in your hands yet.

 

It seems that everyone's losing their sense of perspective this month, as predicted.  Call it post Christmas malaise if you like, but it happens every year. :shrug:

 

Any more name calling will result in the thread getting closed.  Discuss the kit in realistic terms by all means, without belittling each other or making mountains out of molehills.  I know that's possible, and it seems perfectly reasonable to expect you to do so.

 

You have been warned.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:50 AM

Paul thanks for the review I really enjoyed it and am eagerly awaiting to see if they decide to do a 1/48th scale version to go with the Alleycat vampires I have.

 

Some pics of the T.11 at a recent airshow in NZ and yes I do have a soft spot for the Vampire/Venom 

And an ex-Swiss Venom 

 



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:03 AM

Oh God! IT HUNGERS!


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:04 AM

 

Paul thanks for the review I really enjoyed it and am eagerly awaiting to see if they decide to do a 1/48th scale version to go with the Alleycat vampires I have.

I know Alleycat were looking at a T.11 but this was kind off put on hold with Trumpeter doing a vampire etc. I can understand this as its a lot of work for him to do one, only for an injected one to come out.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:12 AM

Some pics of the T.11 at a recent airshow in NZ and yes I do have a soft spot for the Vampire/Venom 


Hi Steve.

Those two Vampires are not T11's - the main external difference being the pylon for the drop tanks. The T11's drop tanks were a completely different design, as shown on the Airfix model. I think these aircraft are either ex-Swiss T55's or maybe ex-Australian T35's?


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#49 John Aero

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

 I know Alleycat were looking at a T.11 but this was kind off put on hold with Trumpeter doing a vampire etc. I can understand this as its a lot of work for him to do one, only for an injected one to come out.

Julien 

For Trumpeter (with their breakdown) to do the T.11 would mean a whole new kit where Ali could make a new nose forwards of the firewall and new fins. There is some serious braking going on with those NZ Vampires!

 

John


Edited by John Aero, 04 February 2013 - 11:55 AM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:03 PM

Thanks Mike, half of the comments are based on what they have seen in the review and not the an in the hand experience. Come on guys, lts be greatful for the kit cut the crap and get on with modelling. The website title is Brit MODELLER. I bet more than half of you wil buy the kit and stick it away in the hope that something better will come along!

 

Colin

 

PS. No offenceintended to those who thinkitis a good kit.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

Ok, here's a question, were there any external changes to the twin seat Vampires (beyond the drop tanks) during their lifetime?

 

I want to do a mid-50s 602 aircraft, then a late 60s School of Air Traffic Control (A lttle theme I have going, and in Light Aircraft Grey, so no metallic!), then maybe a T22......


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

The early T.11's had the barred canopy and the NF.10 fins. Some T.ll's were flown with the early canopy and the later fins. A type that will cause confusion is the NF(T).10 which had a late T.ll type canopy and the early fins. Not all T.lls had the Rebecca Mk.4 aerials on to of the wings.

 

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

Thanks for the review. Im no fan of panel lines but these

are actually very restrained and the whole kit has a

"quality" look about it in the box. Some lovely crisply

moulded small parts and even some beautiful restrained

rivet detail.

Cheers, Paul



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

The early T.11's had the barred canopy and the NF.10 fins. Some T.ll's were flown with the early canopy and the later fins. A type that will cause confusion is the NF(T).10 which had a late T.ll type canopy and the early fins. Not all T.lls had the Rebecca Mk.4 aerials on to of the wings.

 

John

 

Thanks John, I forgot about the early canopy. I think that least one early one had a camouflage scheme. Check serials is the watchword on the T11/NF(T) 10!



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:09 PM

Hi everybody

 

I do not care about the engraving or number of rivets of the model . This I can do or correct  myself .

For me the most important thing I have to know before buying a kit ( cheap or not )  is " Are the SHAPE  and dimensions  " accurate ?, cause if these are off , there is nothing we can do about it , without real hard working.

As for the details , it is up to the modeler's wish to add them or not .

 

So , my question is simple , "Can you please tell me if this kit is good in shape and scale".E.G.  Are the booms , fins , air intakes  and nose-canopy O.K.?

I do not have that much serious doc / scale plans about this aircraft.

 

I suppose that some Brit gentlemen modelers and T.11 lovers here on this site will have this material.

 

Thanks to Airfix for releasing this kit.

 

Madcop  :) 



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

John at Aeroclub said it looks good elsewhere. That's all I need to hear.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

Mine arrived today. After examining the kit parts I started to read this thread again. Then I read about the sink marks. I hadn't noticed them on the parts so I hurried back to have a look. I found 'em. Eventually... took a bit of searching, I can tell you. The one on the port wing is slightly deeper. I'm not convinced that it would be worth the time and effort even trying to fix the one on the starboard wing. Things may change after a coat of filler, but I honestly can't see them taking more than about ten minutes to fix.

The panel lines are slightly deeper than on the Airfix Spitfire XIX which also arrived today. However, given my style of modelling and the amount of primer and filler I end up slathering on, then that's not actually a bad thing. :D

I like this kit! And I'll freely admit to being an Airfix fanboy! :lol:

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:17 AM

Hi Steve.

Those two Vampires are not T11's - the main external difference being the pylon for the drop tanks. The T11's drop tanks were a completely different design, as shown on the Airfix model. I think these aircraft are either ex-Swiss T55's or maybe ex-Australian T35's?

 

Vampire Fan you are correct they are both ex-swiss T55s made up to represent a RNZAF T.11 and a RAAF T.35 Vampire with Oz tail codes and very wrong kiwi roundels, so work that one out???  :banghead:

 


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:51 AM

Hi Steve. At least they are still flying, that's the main thing!
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

A review sample rocked up today at HQ, and I had to have a look inside after all the kerfuffle.  What a nice looking kit! :clap2:  I'm not a 1:72 builder, but this is one of those kits that is severe temptation, despite its size.  The detail is excellent, and panel lines restrained, while those two sink marks are eminently fixable, and are the only two on the whole model.  A crackin' little model, and if appreciating a good tooling from Airfix makes me a fan boy, then so what? ;)


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