Giorgio N Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I see this kit is so bad Hannants have now sold out!!! Just managed to get one, anyone know if anyone does Irish decals for this one? Julien Max Decals in sheet 72-001, as I mentioned a few pages ago in this same thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Clearing the shelves of this dreadful kit so that others don't have to put up with its awfulness... very public spirited of you! It's only a matter of time. I wonder what Xtradecal have in the pipeline. In the meantime, can any of the single-seat options from Modeldecal sheets 100 and 101 be adapted? Yes, kind of sort of, I'm going to do my first one as it appeared at Swinderby during the early 1980's, it wears 607Sqn markings which will come from one of those Modeldecal sheets (apparently the markings were added in later life and the particular aircraft never actually served with 607), just need to find some more options which use the other markings on the sheets. Wez Edited March 7, 2013 by Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Séan Pádraig Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 anyone know if anyone does Irish decals for this one?Max Decals in sheet 72-001, as I mentioned a few pages ago in this same thread.Over on the Irishscalemodeller forum some oen contacted Joe Maxwell and he confirmed he will be be bringing out a revised IAC set including the Vampire.. I already have his first set but good news all the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I've done my best to rid the world of this travesty, unfortunately I've only been able to get one. To make matters worst it only came with sheep f........... sorry.... Kiwi decals I thought Ozzies and Kiwis were best mates???? Over here, the New Zealand markings only come with the starter kit. Is that the one you have or can you get the other boxing? Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Over on the Irishscalemodeller forum some oen contacted Joe Maxwell and he confirmed he will be be bringing out a revised IAC set including the Vampire..Thats good news Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomvixen Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I thought Ozzies and Kiwis were best mates???? Over here, the New Zealand markings only come with the starter kit. Is that the one you have or can you get the other boxing? Trevor Starter set, twas all Ive been able to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I thought Ozzies and Kiwis were best mates???? We'll gang up together against you guys & most of the rest of the world, except maybe the Americans, hard to gang up against them when one of the party only has their heels visible from you know where but leave us to our own devices & its game on, sort of like a national passtime. Steve Edited March 8, 2013 by stevehnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx6667 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Nothing worse that asking a Kiwi if they're Australian - makes the Praxis shockwave look like a wet fart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Isn't the new unbuildable Airfix Hawker Typhoon due to be released shortly?I'm looking forward to the new first generation Harriers, 'cos they're bound to be unbuildable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Nothing worse that asking a Kiwi if they're Australian - makes the Praxis shockwave look like a wet fart. Yes there is Jonathan , its asking an Aussie if they're a Kiwi !! eh bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomvixen Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yes there is Jonathan , its asking an Aussie if they're a Kiwi !! eh bro! Thems fighten words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) The engineering is very clever - the way the booms link to the wings make it almost impossible to mess up. In fact, mine is sitting with only the boom halves glued together, with everything in almost perfect alignment! I did need to take a little off the rear of the port boom joining piece, but I suspect that was down to the plastic rather than the tooling. Almost impossible....I thought so too, but they didn't fit for me, or at least didn't fall into place as readily as expected. I wasn't trying to foul it up, honestly! I can't see where I've gone wrong, but with the booms dryfitted the lower wing does not fit properly to the upper half at the outside of the boom, with a large step down. The outer wing is not aligning to the fairings on the boom and the booms are not sitting vertically. I've tried the usual filing and scraping at the joins and adjacent parts, enough to count as more than a reasonable modelling expectation for a new kit. The one thing that did help was slightly opening the gap in the wing for the booms at the front, which allowed the booms to rotate slightly. I shall have another go tonight. It doesn't look to be an unworkable problem, I'm just rather surprised than no-one else seems to have encountered it. As far as filling unwanted lines, I found that Mr Dissolved Putty worked better than Mr Surfacer 500 or 1200, but suspect that white Milliput and a wet finger would do as well. PS. After a little more filing and scraping I abandoned dry fitting and glued the booms to the tailplane, then placed the upper wing so as to hold the booms in. (Yes, this is as the instructions have it, but I thought dry fitting first was supposed to be generally advisable....) This looks to have sorted the vertical alignment problem. The upper wing is still only dry fitted to the booms, but looks as though it will go into place properly, and I'll let everything dry before attempting to fit the lower wing Edited March 8, 2013 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yes there is Jonathan , its asking an Aussie if they're a Kiwi !! eh bro! Didn't someone bowl underarm in the last over of a test match or something? Getting back on topic I aim to compare and contrast the totally unbuildable Airfix thing (lol) with the Aeroclub example in my deep store. Not yet though as my AMARC (the garage) is rammed with 'stuff' whilst the house gets an MLU.... Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Gluing the tailbooms and tailplane together to form a rigid unit helped. Yes, this is the way Airfix tell you to do it in the instructions, but ever since learning about Critical Path Analysis I've been a believer in working on different parts of the model at once in order to shorten the overall build time. I suspect I (and others) would have done the same without the formal training, but a point to Airfix anyway. Placing this unit together with the one-piece upper wing solved the tail alignment - the previous filing may have helped, but that's impossible to prove now without another kit, and the faffing on filling the lines has dampened my enthusiasm for this one let alone another. The key problem with the inboard step turned out to be that the lower wing was rocking over the raised wheel well, so filing this down brought the parts more into line. Again, some of the earlier work may have helped, but I wish I'd thought of that/noticed it sooner. I'm surprised that no else has commented on this. I hauled out my two part-assembled Heller Vampires, without nasty panel lines, only to discover that the wing roots were covered in filler and there was a step to the rear of the gun panel, so perhaps it's a case of six and two threes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard M Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I didn't have any problems with mine apart from lining up the main gear leg strut into it's slot in the wing, if I did another I'd leave this part off while glueing the boom in place; Leg and strut location. the boom went in no problem, stayed in place on it's own and I just ran some liquid cement around the edge. Lower wing glued in place, the gap to the fuselage disappeared with some liquid cement and a bit of pressure. My build here; http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=409&t=37742 Edited March 9, 2013 by Richard M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Test Graham Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I've not reached the wing-to-pod assembly yet, but don't anticipate any problems. What I had trouble with is the way the lower wing half sits high rather than flush with the flap and aileron. The outer part can be fixed by attacking the two wing mating surfaces, as fairly normal, but where it approaches the boom this doesn't work. The problem I had with the boom alignment came from trying to do too much with loose parts whilst investigating the matter - making the boom unit rigid has solved that aspect. However, that part of the lower wing aft of the wheel well did not sit down without a fair bit of work filing down the height of the wheel well sides. I'd read a comment about the u/c leg, but thought that was a matter of vulnerability rather than being awkward to fit. I'll bear it in mind, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 For Trumpeter (with their breakdown) to do the T.11 would mean a whole new kit where Ali could make a new nose forwards of the firewall and new fins. There is some serious braking going on with those NZ Vampires! John John RE your last point.....maybe that's why the gentlemen in the penultimate photo has one of those "phew, we got away with that" looks as he holds his head in his hands whilst walking away...! Tiger331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Rejoice! More reasons to buy the unbuildable kit: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72172 http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72173 http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72174 As I've got three of these kits already I've just been given an excuse to buy another 24! Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venomvixen Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Rejoice! More reasons to buy the unbuildable kit: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72172 http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72173 http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72174 As I've got three of these kits already I've just been given an excuse to buy another 24! Wez Damn you Sir Now I have to buy 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Bugga!, FAA on 72172 & RNZAF on 72173. Thats two sheets & at least two more kits I'll be wanting, maybe more once I see the illustrations for them. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Bugga!, FAA on 72172 & RNZAF on 72173. Thats two sheets & at least two more kits I'll be wanting, maybe more once I see the illustrations for them. Steve. Most of the options are shown in the Warpaint book, don't be sad though Steve, it just gives you an excuse to buy more Vampires - surely a cause for celebration!? Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Oh no, know I will have to buy more of these bad kits! Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Oh no, know I will have to buy more of these bad kits! Julien I know it's become a running joke, but no-one has said it's a bad kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Séan Pádraig Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Is this one of those street slang terms when something is really good you say it's BAD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Most of the options are shown in the Warpaint book, don't be sad though Steve, it just gives you an excuse to buy more Vampires - surely a cause for celebration!? Wez I was speaking on behalf of my wallet, its thrown a sulk & refusing to open just now. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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