zed Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Does anyone know what the distinguishing features of the Tu-95V are? What made it different from the other Bear variants and can it be made from the Trumpeter kit in 1/72? I got the Tsar Bomba from Amodel and would like to make a plane to carry it. Thanks. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The Trumpeter Bear is a Tu-95MS Bear H. It's a totally different airplane from any earlier Tu-95 variant. It came from the Tu-142 ASW variant, and has a different cockpit, longer fuselage, different wing (which Trumpeter screwed up, as usual), etc. Amodel has done a 1/72 Tu-116 "Bearliner", so it's just a matter of time before they do a Bear A freefall bomber, which is what you'd need to do the Tsar Bomba airplane. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Jennings, Amodel have now released the early Bear bomber. I have one on my watchlist on eBay - it's going for around $300USD! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Too rich for my blood. If somebody did an early Bear series (Bear A through E, and a G), I'd be in heaven. Edited December 9, 2012 by Jennings Heilig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The Amodel Tu-95M/U has been out for a while now..... According to Yefim Gordon in the Aerofax Tu-95 booklet, the Tu-95V had to have its bomb bay doors removed to accomodate the new 'super bomb' (also known as the 'Tsar Bomb'. There is a grainy photo in the book of the Tu-95V showing the exposed bomb under the fuselage I don't know of any other mods that you would have to make to the Amodel Tu-95M/U to turn it into a Tu-95V. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Too rich for my blood. If somebody did an early Bear series (Bear A through E, and a G), I'd be in heaven. Or a Tu-95K with the cruise missile(s), and the option of doing the extended tail cone or the regular tail-gunner position. I agree that the Amodel one is a bit much; I'd buy it in a second if it were $100USD or even $125 (two seconds if it were $150). Ken, are you going to build this one - I'd love to see a build article on your site about this kit. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zed Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thanks for this folks. I was afraid that the conversion was too much and the Amodel is too rich for this project. I guess the bomb will have to sit on its trailer on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'd give parts of my anatomy for a Bear-G. We used to see them regularly visiting Alaska when I was up there, although in those days we didn't invite them to land and refuel, we just sent them on their way with an F-15A escort Long flight from Ukrainka (Blagoveshchensk on the Amur River) all the way to Alaska... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'd give parts of my anatomy for a Bear-G. This is a Tu-95K-20 'Bear B'..... .... but the Tu-95K-22 'Bear-G' is similar.... I wonder if you could graft the duck-bill radar nose from a Trumpeter Tu-16K-10 onto the Amodel Tu-95M - to make one (along with some other mods of course......... Amodel already make the Kh-20 missile (for the Bear- B ) ..... .... and the Kh-22 (for the Bear-G)...... Hmmm...... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zed Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 In that case, slightly changing the thread, as I would still like a Bear in my collection, how bad are the Trumpy Tu-95 and Tu-142 kits for that matter? I can get either for a fraction of the price of the Amodel ones, so I would rather go that way. Jennings, you mentioned that they screwed up the wings, in what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It looks OK to me....... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenshb Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't know what Jennings is referring to, but the leading edges of the wings are terribly blunt compared to the real thing...and hard to fix. Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Exactly. Compare the wing root area where it intersects the fuselage with photos of a real Bear-H (or a Tu-142 Bear-F) and you'll see how badly Trumpeter fornicated the domesticated canine on it. Most people probably wouldn't notice, but if you know much about aerodynamics, it's jumps out at you like a snake. Still eagerly waiting for Amodel to do some more early Bear variants. Keep your collective fingers crossed for a Bear B/C/G! Edited October 4, 2013 by Jennings Heilig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Like this...... You could fix it with a bit of filler shaped to the correct contours - but I can live with it as it is..... Ken PS - I did a review of the Trumpeter kit when it first came out - I can't believe it was 11 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 You could fix it with a bit of filler shaped to the correct contours Uh yeah. A 'bit of filler' - like in a 55 gallon drum, and you'd end up re-shaping the entire inboard leading edge all the way out to the engine nacelle and back about 1/4 chord. I'm holding out hope for Amodel to do a Tu-95K-22 Bear-G at some point. We saw them almost as frequently up in Alaska as we did the Bear-H's back in the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Like this...... You could fix it with a bit of filler shaped to the correct contours - but I can live with it as it is..... That's it? I was expecting something much more diabolical from the descriptions . Wouldn't stop me buying one if I wanted a bear that big. 1/200 is enough for me for now though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's very much a matter of personal taste (as always). But that photo Ken posted only tells part of the story. Look at his (magnificent) built-up kit. The front end of the wing inboard of the engines looks like a vertical wall. Vertical walls (the F-4 Phantom notwithstanding) don't fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I recall seeing a 1/72 Bear-B kit in the late 80's that really was horrendous though. No idea who produced it, but I saw it built up in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's very much a matter of personal taste (as always). But that photo Ken posted only tells part of the story. Look at his (magnificent) built-up kit. The front end of the wing inboard of the engines looks like a vertical wall. Vertical walls (the F-4 Phantom notwithstanding) don't fly. Shock horror !!! .... could it be that we are wrong and Trumpeter are (nearly) right ???? I think we are doing a dis-service to Trumpeter on this one...... Looking at some of my Tu-95 photos it looks like Trumpeter's Tu-95MS is not so far off....... This is the Tu-95MS (based on the Tu-142 wing/airframe)..... This is the earlier Tu-95K-22 (of which the Tu-95V is a variant)..... As you can see, the later Tu-95MS/Tu-142 has a much more blunt inner leading edge - not far off what Trumpeter provide. Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennings Heilig Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 We'll have to agree to disagree. When I first opened the Trumpeter box, that wing leading edge wall jumped out and put fish hooks into my eyeballs. It's the very first thing I noticed about the kit. If you can live with it, more power to you. It ruins the effect for me (and no, we're not wrong, and yes, Trumpeter did get it wrong IMHO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I happen to agree with Ken; it's not that different. Certainly not a show stopper in my book. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfpack Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's not outlandishly bad. From Jennings' comments, I was expecting a Great Wall of China look-a-like. No-one as far as I know, has produced a resin correction piece for it which would be the easiest way to go. It's all in the eye of the beholder I reckon. It certainly wouldn't stop me building one. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 We'll have to agree to disagree. When I first opened the Trumpeter box, that wing leading edge wall jumped out and put fish hooks into my eyeballs. It's the very first thing I noticed about the kit. If you can live with it, more power to you. It ruins the effect for me (and no, we're not wrong, and yes, Trumpeter did get it wrong IMHO). You won't do yourself any good worrying about little things like this when Trumpeter seem to have done a decent job. Fish hooks in the eyes..............Man, I wish a wing root was my only worry! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128fiddler Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Sorry to jump this topic from the past, but seems the MS is also slightly longer if you compare the aft cockpit line to the nose gear doors. However, i Came to this topic to see what should be done to get a Tu-95RT Bear-D. What's the type it was converted from? As a sidenote, Is it safe to say the glass nose tip is the same as a B-29? The fuselage direct aft of the tip i assume not, as it is said the main fuselage diameter was also the same as a B-29, wasn't it? I have some spares, and got carried away when looking at some pictures of intercepted RT's with their huge radomes. 😉 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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