tommyinuk0 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hi all, I post most builds straight onto the RFI forum but thought I would do this as a WIP thread for a change. I have decided to make a representation of Gloster Javelin FAW.2 XA778 which I found in probably my most favourite book, Testing Colours British test, trials and research aircraft of A&AEE, RAE and ETPS since 1960 by Adrian M. Balch. I picked this up years ago but it is still available for around a tenner and is packed with colour photos which would keep any modeller going for the next 20 years! I am sure most of you out there have it in your reference library but if you don't and these type of aircraft are your thing it would be a great christmas pressey list addition! So this is my aim. Having said that there are photos on the net of this aircraft in a lot cleaner and less worn state, looking like it has just come out the paint shop and I may aim for something more like that. I also say my 'representation' as I am not a rivet counter and I am aware XA778 is a FAW.2 and my model as you will see is not! I have looked up the differences and it seems that this aircraft was a proototype for the FAW.7. The only differences I can see are the engines and the radar fitted. Of course I may be wrong and if there is anyone out there who can explain in more detail the differences I would be pleased to hear from you. So anyway, the kit I found was the NOVO Javelin for a number of reasons: 1. I like the old kits they are simple and honest. 2. NOVO kits in my opinion build up lovely, with challenges aplenty for the modeller! (Kits are too perfect nowadays). 3. They are easily available (as no one wants them) and more importantly cheap. The kit is basic, with basic instructions and good decals, LOTS of flash and made of thick chunky plastic! The intakes on this kit are well, not there, so I thought I would create some using DAS modelling clay, this is like plastercine, but drys hard when left in the air and can then be shaped, filed etc. In my case I drilled out the intakes. The added bonus was this also acts as my nose weight! More to follow soon. Thanks for reading Tommy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'll watch with interest. I like the intakes solution you came up with and may try that myself. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinuk0 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 The intake solution is quite simple, you can get it at Hobby craft etc. Infact it was a guy on the maritime forum who got me into it, they use it to create waves around a model when it's on a board. It can be painted etc and lasts ages once opened as long a it is sealed properly. I've had that pack over a year! It is also good for really BIG gaps! Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Great idea, the Frog/Novo Javelin is a nice kit, we've seen some nice models from them to give us inspiration This will be yet another of those I'm sure That thick plastic gives you plenty to work with too I like the stained, tired and very visible staining on the DayGlo, some careful thinned paint brushed in where the stains are would look awesome. Funnily enough, I was giving a packet of Das a tender mauling last time I was in Mikes Models, I must have been thinking along the same lines for the model I'm making. I'll bite the bullet and buy the packet next time I'm in there Hope to enjoy following this thread thanks bill Edited November 28, 2012 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This should be good I agree, that is one of the best books I've seen for test schemes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 This looks like fun, I'm pulling up my chair as I have one in the stash. BTW Whirlybits do a resin FAW7 back end although I have a feeling you might go with the Das solution! Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If you can carry this one off it is going to look uber cool! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewfl290 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I still have one I built as a kid 40 years ago with see through intakes. I have another in the stash that I may or may not build, it's just nice to reminisce. I'll be watching with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Well that's a great scheme, really looking forwards to this, so different from the usual scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrope Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Funny how your Novo Javelin is white and flashy but the one I have is grey and flash free. I'll be watching this as I dragged it out the stash last week for a look see Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) My Novo Javelin is grey with flash all over the place! Duncan B Edited November 30, 2012 by Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Here is my ZTS Plastyk clone from the shelf of doom using chopped drop tanks and Plasto Trevor Edited November 30, 2012 by Max Headroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atdb27 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Classic Plastic for sure. Nice to see this one started/improved upon. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinuk0 Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Hi all, Thanks for all the comments and I am glad that a discussion has now started over the different colours of plastic, NOVO kits were made in, this could be a whole new forum!! I have progressed and now as I have the added pressure of fellow modellers watching, I hope to deliver! ermmm So wings went on next and then the masses of filler which was needed for a kit like this. The DAS comes into its own again! I then sanded that down and used normal humbrol grey filler, sanded that down and did a final coat of filler using the awesome 'Liquid Green Stuff' from the citadel range. That is actually its name and is great stuff as it is a liquid, just a bit thick applied by a brush. Because its acrylic it doesnt smell and the brush can be cleaned with water. It is great as a fine filler. I then gave a coat of undercoat, using a citadel base colour, and then painted the areas which will be dayglo white as an undercoat. I have found the white makes the dayglo brighter. So thats where I am upto now, feel free to leave comments etc. Many thanks for watching. Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 That was quick! I thought this WIP would see me through the winter with it being such an old kit? Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Good progress on this one and a great looking subject ! One small "warning": Das is a great material but it can crack. Always check it's fully cured before doing any kind of work on the parts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcanicity Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ooh, a brightly coloured Javelin! Double congratulations for such a fine choice of subject, and great work so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro-manic Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Great subject, and I'm looking forward to seeing this completed. I must have a hunt around for that book too - looks excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radalt Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I like the old kits for the same reasons and I really like your choice of a odd dayglo bird If only it was 1/48.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritJet Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Looking good so far, if you're changing the jetpipe area, these might help; XA778 as the prototype for the Mk7 also had the intakes on the upper fuselage as on the Mk8/9, which weren't on production Mk7s Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Great drawings there Steve, ta The model is looking good, must get some of that liquid green stuff (just thinking, when I made mine years ago I popped some cut down drop tanks in there too Trevor) b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 'Ere mate,yer nosewheel's on back ter front. Mudguard at the back old chap,mudguard at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinuk0 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Steve, great drawings thanks for sharing them. The wheels are not attached yet but thanks, I will remember mudguard to the back, do aircraft still have mudguards? I have a confession. It was going really well until something happened to the paint I was using, an acrylic spray. I have used it before with no issues, but for some reason it either reacted with something or it was too cold! Not a total disaster and I'm now undertaking a damage limitation exercise. I hope to be back on track by tomorrow, when I will post some more pics. These things are sent to try us, modelling would be boring if it all went to plan! Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Looking at the liquid green stuff (must check it out btw), reminded me of my build of a Frog original and what an awful fit the wing roots were! Incidentally on the ZTS Plastyk clone the wheel wells are truncated by the inside of the wing root. Most of it can be carved (yes carved) out in situ. Dontcha just love these old kits! Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hi Tommy, Now that looks like a very promising built especially, if you go for the worn state!!!! By the way, can you have a look at your book and see if it has a Vampire in a dayglo paint scheme? Perhaps upload the photo.... I have somewhere the Frog kit and it would be nice to finish it in a similar paint scheme. Cheers Sernak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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