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    • Mike

      PhotoBucket are no longer permitting 3rd party hosting   01/07/17

      As most of you are now painfully aware, Photobucket (PB) are stopping/have stopped allowing their members to link their accumulated years of photos into forums and the like, which they call 3rd party linking.  You can give them a non-refundable $399 a year to allow links, but I doubt that many will be rushing to take them up on that offer.  If you've previously paid them for the Pro account, it looks like you've got until your renewal to find another place to host your files, but you too will be subject to this ban unless you fork over a lot of cash.   PB seem to be making a concerted move to another type of customer, having been the butt of much displeasure over the years of a constantly worsening user interface, sloth and advertising pop-ups, with the result that they clearly don't give a hoot about the free members anymore.  If you don't have web space included in your internet package, you need to start looking for another photo host, but choose carefully, as some may follow suit and ditch their "free" members at some point.  The lesson there is keep local backups on your hard drive of everything you upload, so you can walk away if the same thing happens.   There's a thread on the subject here, so please use that to curse them, look for solutions or generall grouse about their mental capacity.   Not a nice situation for the forum users that hosted all their photos there, and there will now be a host of useless threads that relied heavily on photos from PB, but as there's not much we can do other than petition for a more equitable solution, I suggest we make the best of what we have and move on.  One thing is for certain.  It won't win them any friends, but they may not care at this point.    Mike.
roma847

Space Shuttle Launch Pad 39A with Challenger STS-6

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Hi all together,

I've seen great Real Space Modeling projects in your forum.
:coolio: Therefore I want to point out you on my major project. I decided for the STS-6-Mission with the Challenger (04.04.1983) as guidance version for my build, as you can see here in the following image of the Launch Pad 39A with the Challenger before the start to the STS-6 mission.

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Source: retrospaceimages.com

To be built is the Launch Pad 39A with Launch tower, Shuttle stack, as well as Mobile launcher platform (MLP) and Crawler transporter (CT). Basic module for my project is the old Revell kit 4911 in 1:144.

In addition of the launch tower FSS I will use the Detail kits of LVM Studios. The LVM kits contain photo etched parts (PE) from thin brass sheet metal, with which very finely detailed structures can be produced as well known.

For building MLP and Crawler I use the cardboard-model kits by David Maier from EDU-Craft Deversions in scale 1:144. The kits consist in each case of 13 colored building sheets of cardboard (27.5 cm x 42.5 cm) as well as a building guidance on CD-ROM.

If you are interested in the beginning of my progress report you can look
here in the ARC Discussion Forums.

Manfred

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Sorry guys,

 

the link to ARC Discussion Forums did not work. rolleyes.gif

 

If you are interested in my progress report you can follow in the NASASpaceflight Forums, or what do you think about? 

 

Meanwhile I have begun to light my MLP with LEDs. gut.gif

 

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Thanks Kallisti for your nice words,

 

yep, the ARC link was wrong, as I have noticed just today, sorry. :worthy:  But you can also follow the thread in NSF Forums.

BTW, if you or other guys have any feedback or questions, you can also post here and I'll answer you. zustimm.gif

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Hello Guys,

 

so the Launch pad could look later ... shocked.gif

 

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Source: NASA

 

Only some of the pics with my lighting experiments. gut.gif

 

First I have started with these tiny Pure White LEDs (0401),

 

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you can see here on the middle Access Platform. But according to my taste the cold white light looks pretty unrealistic. Bild

 

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Therefore then I've tried warm white LEDs on the left Access Platform, far left Golden White and beside Sunny White, what looks much more better. cool.gif

 

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Meanwhile, I have decided on the warm light of the Sunny White LEDs that I will use. gut.gif

 

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This should only be a small overview for the curious. zustimm.gif

 

Bye for now.

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By heck, that's impressive! You made the right choice on the lights :)

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An interesting build, I'l follow with interest. The lighting looks spot on.

Colin

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Thanks Mike and Colin for your nice words, I also think so! The Sunny Whites make a pretty realistic warm white light. gut.gif

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Good to see the update on here Manfred, been following this superbly detailed build :yikes: . I reckon you have another year or 2 before it's finished such is the level of perfection, keep it up.

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Thanks Jay for your nice words, :worthy:

 

I don't know exactly, fortunately I have no deadline. But I could think more like two years, it has to be with all these details, LVM PE-Detail Kits No. 1-5 and especially lighting. gut.gif

Only the FSS Tower will have more than 100 LED lamps, shocked.gif what will be a major challenge, or better say Modeling madness ... omgsign.gif

 

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Source: retrospaceimages.com (STS-6)

 

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Deeply impressed & not a little envious....

Good luck with your efforts, it's gonna take a LOT to achieve what your aiming for, but on this showing: You'll do it!!

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Thanks for your kind words and the best wishes, that gives me strength and courage to carry on. wall.gif

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very cool...

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Now I've got also the red LEDs (0401), and therefore I have made a first test.

 

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These LEDs I want to use for the caution lights (beacons).

 

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Source: NASA

 

And so there was suddenly a practice alarm without warning,

 

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only they do not blink, but this is also provided. gut.gif

 

Well, now I'm going to dismount the Pure White LEDs and replace by the Sunny White. And now the lampshades have to get the finishing touch and paint before they go into the electrical workshop. zustimm.gif

 

So boredom can not arise, it is going round ... :yikes:

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Such a stunning start to the build, will be following this eagerly

Si

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Hello together,

 

and thanks guys for your nice words.

 

After a light spring fatigue I have browsing in the meantime, some older images sources according to the hazard warning lights. But somehow I have not the right clarity, as with these red and/or yellow beacons of those days back in the STS-6 on MLP-2:rolleyes:

 

So far, my friends from the NSF Forum unfortunately could not help me too, but I stumbled across a very interesting thread that makes me high hopes. So I have found a contemporary witness (39B), who has worked at the time during the reconstruction and modification of the Pad 39B there and has been reported about in detail with although partially slightly yellowed, but still great photo scans. Maybe he can answer my special questions. :coolio:

 

Since I now know the lamps pretty good on the FSS and the MLP, I have now started, the lights on the RSS to look a little closer. And this my standard reference photo is again a good overview.

 

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Source: retrospaceimages.com (STS-6)

 

And as you can see it, there are the same lamps are mounted as in MLP with the classic lampshades.  up035091.gif

 

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On the newer "old" photos the lamp shape becomes even clearer as the following pictures show.

 

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Source: J. MacLaren (39B) NASASpaceflight.com

 

And so I can use my recent lampshades from the ferrules for the RSS lamps.  a040.gif

 

Of course I've tried and picked out the lamps from the Revell kit.

 

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These are the arc lamps here, of which 40 pcs. are included in the kit, but they were never installed in this spherical shape on the pads. :analintruder:

 

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And that's why I like my screen lamps but much better,

 

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or what do you think?

 

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Okay, the arcs are 1 mm in diameter, what's a little too strong, but I would anyway prefer to use a thinner brass tube in order to thread the LED wires still.  a040.gif

 

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So long for now.

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Yup, like the modified lamps.

To get a thinner tube you could use the actual metal tube as the return conductor so that you only have to thread one wire through the tube.

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Thanks Kallisti,

 

this is possible in principle, but should only be very cumbersome. :analintruder: For this I first have to solder every negative pole of the LEDs to the brass tubes and then connect each brass tube by a soldered wire to the next, and that is certainly a major effort.

Since it is much easier to pull the two wires from LED through the tube, in this test this is brass tube 0,7 mm in diameter with 0,25 mm wires. :coolio:

 

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Right?

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That works too, as long as you can get a decent bend in the tube - looking forward to seeing this :)

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You mean this variant, right? undecided.gif

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First I will try to pull the wires through the tube, maybe it will work. cool.gif

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This is stunning work. :worthy: I'm seriously contemplating the card model you're basing this off, as it's just so much better than the comparative "blob" that comes with the kit. Keep up the good work :clap2:

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