kspriss Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 im sure there must have been a Canberra version with a tailwheel...they tried almost everything else steve ps...only joking, i know there wasnt...i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 by some kind of lucky happenstance I may have used a pair of Matchbox Canberra wheels on mine, but to be honest it was so long ago I just can't remember. I'll have a nose at shelf level next time I pop in to see the model, just to see. Know what I mean... Anyway, my vote is still to whip off the rivets for a 1/72nd scale model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz50 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 If anyone wants a close up look around the Coventry Shackleton (WR963), let me know. I'm there every Saturday making sure most - if not all- the rivets on her are present and correct. If you come along on 28th January, we're ground running her too.As to the kits - The Chematic (FROG) 1:72 example is pretty good, but the panel lines aren't really that true to the original, and the rivets are a bit over emphasised even by Shackleton standards. Having said that, the shape is pretty much spot on for the MR3, and with the addition of a conversion you can make a good MR2/AEW2 from it. Its just a shame the MR3 kit didn't have the Rolls Royce Vipers added later in its life - seen on all the RAF preserved examples. As to the 1:48 vac form Shackleton - it'll take a lot of work. The engine cowlings and nacelles bear no resemblance to the real thing in shape or size. Theres no evidence of the air filters under the engine, radiator shutters, or anything like that. The wingtips look a bit odd too, not being symmetrical at all. A good leg up here to avoid some scratch building would be to rob parts from a Tamiya 1:48 lanc if you can for the undercarraige bays - as the internal wing structure and retract system is quite similar. Also for those considering scratch building an MR2/AEW2 in any size, the Shackleton tailwheels are identical to the Canberra's. Kind regards, Rich Shackleton Preservation Trust I have actually sat in ( WR 963 ) Mr Cubberley was a REAL Gent It was when 'She'had had the new Griffon fitted and the White paint was being applied Im also in contact with someone on Deviantart ( female) who has a connection with ( WR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Revell instance of the Shack as intended - needed a LOT of noseweight: This one only lost those rivets smoothed during construction. And another Revell + Aeroclub conversion. This one was smoothed down once the major assembly was completed. I had another copy of the kit, but sold it to a colleague who worked on No8 Sqdn Shacks in the 1980s. He reckoned that the Magic Roundabout characters were gone by the time he arrived. He also had any of my leftover decals - so can't help anybody looking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz50 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Chematic 1/72 £22 evilbay Delivered from Poland Im going 'rivetless' Im loving the models that are being posted Think im going to do WR963 Edited January 17, 2012 by Baz50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I have actually sat in ( WR 963 ) Mr Cubberley was a REAL Gent It was when 'She'had had the new Griffon fitted and the White paint was being applied Im also in contact with someone on Deviantart ( female) who has a connection with ( WR) You're more than welcome to come again. Sqn Ldr Cubberley still attends regularly at Coventry and keeps us younger guys on track regarding our old bomber. I know who you are now though, the lady you've been chatting with on DA is my sister, Laura! I commissioned a painting from her of WR963 in the new scheme, which I think is featured on Laura's page. Have you visited again since the scaffolding got put away and the paintwork is done? theplasticsurgeon: - we've been having a discussion regarding the Magic Roundabout characters on another fourm, it appears one 8 Sqn CO ordered them got rid of. The names (but not the art) made a reappearance during storage at Waddington in 1991. The name 'Ermintrude' was still visible on WR963 until we repainted her, but several of the others still carry names. Kind regards, Rich Edited January 17, 2012 by richw_82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz50 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Revell instance of the Shack as intended - needed a LOT of noseweight: This one only lost those rivets smoothed during construction. And another Revell + Aeroclub conversion. This one was smoothed down once the major assembly was completed. I had another copy of the kit, but sold it to a colleague who worked on No8 Sqdn Shacks in the 1980s. He reckoned that the Magic Roundabout characters were gone by the time he arrived. He also had any of my leftover decals - so can't help anybody looking for them. 2 nice looking examples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 This scheme looks interesting? I am sure I have seen Mosquitos in these colours What would the shade of grey be on the top side prehaps I can finish one of my Mosquitos in this scheme? (sorry to change subject..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz50 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 You're more than welcome to come again. Sqn Ldr Cubberley still attends regularly at Coventry and keeps us younger guys on track regarding our old bomber. I know who you are now though, the lady you've been chatting with on DA is my sister, Laura! I commissioned a painting from her of WR963 in the new scheme, which I think is featured on Laura's page. Have you visited again since the scaffolding got put away and the paintwork is done?theplasticsurgeon: - we've been having a discussion regarding the Magic Roundabout characters on another fourm, it appears one 8 Sqn CO ordered them got rid of. The names (but not the art) made a reappearance during storage at Waddington in 1991. The name 'Ermintrude' was still visible on WR963 until we repainted her, but several of the others still carry names. Kind regards, Rich Its on this year's to do list. Sorry Sqn Ldr Cubberley a lack of respect on my behalf. Laura thats her very talented lady yes it was/is Are you on DA ? No i have not sorry to say was going to come on the saturday night 'taxi run' but 'family' problems etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberraman Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 That's the standard Bomber Command scheme of the early 50s which featured on Canberras Lincolns, Brigands, Mossies etc. It's medium sea grey upper surfaces over black undersurfaces. Mark This scheme looks interesting? I am sure I have seen Mosquitos in these colours What would the shade of grey be on the top side prehaps I can finish one of my Mosquitos in this scheme? (sorry to change subject..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Sorry Sqn Ldr Cubberley a lack of respect on my behalf.No i have not sorry to say was going to come on the saturday night 'taxi run' but 'family' problems etc I'm sure it wasn't a lack of respect.... don't worry. I signed up to DA briefly just to have a look at some of the stuff Laura was putting up and add encouragement... especially when she was doing my painting. As mentioned earlier, there's another engine run of WR963 on the 28th of this month, and we usually try to do one a month minimum, so there's plenty of opportunity in the coming year. If anybody else is planning an MR2/AEW2, I'd recommend you visit us as there's no barriers inside or outside the aircraft.... so you can count rivets to your hearts content! Linger too long and you might get asked to help us with the spanner work though! If I can find it, I picked up the details of the guy who's importing the Chematic kits into the UK- our team ambushed him at the IPMS nationals and pretty much bought every Shackleton on his stand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz50 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm sure it wasn't a lack of respect.... don't worry. I signed up to DA briefly just to have a look at some of the stuff Laura was putting up and add encouragement... especially when she was doing my painting.As mentioned earlier, there's another engine run of WR963 on the 28th of this month, and we usually try to do one a month minimum, so there's plenty of opportunity in the coming year. If anybody else is planning an MR2/AEW2, I'd recommend you visit us as there's no barriers inside or outside the aircraft.... so you can count rivets to your hearts content! Linger too long and you might get asked to help us with the spanner work though! If I can find it, I picked up the details of the guy who's importing the Chematic kits into the UK- our team ambushed him at the IPMS nationals and pretty much bought every Shackleton on his stand... Looks like im going to coventry on the 28th im not good with a spanner or a kettle its good to know but i bet the queue will be long but im a patient sort of guy ok to DA dont think i will take up the offer of 'rivet counting' ok to Chematic kit have not yet ordered the 'kit' off ebay yet so i will wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richw_82 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 As promised: Shackleton tailwheel (complete with towbar..) Canberra nosewheel If anyone wants any more pics of specific bits, let me know. Kind regards, Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancfan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have four examples of this kit in the stash, I want to start the set with the MR3 and AEW2, I have the conversion kit but just need the decals to build the AEW2. for the MR1 I have decided to use the Sanger kit for the fuselage with modified Frog/Revell wings. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Great, very useful pictures Rich It seems I should have streamlined my tailwheel strut a bit/lot more I have a fancy for a mark 1 too at some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have a fancy for a mark 1 too at some time was there a conversion kit for this by Aeroclub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) was there a conversion kit for this by Aeroclub? I have been away for a very long time, so there may have been. I think I can probably stretch to making the new bits though, was it a glass nose and a radome mostly and a blunter rear end? (quite like mine own) Edited January 27, 2012 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have been away for a very long time, so there may have been.I think I can probably stretch to making the new bits though, was it a glass nose and a radome mostly and a blunter rear end? (quite like mine own) Yes it was, Bill. It also had a fixed tailwheel like a Lancaster/Lincoln. Rather a dumpy-looking aeroplane if you ask me, not like the MR.2 and MR.3. Still an interesting conversion. Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Can anyone tell me which is the better kit pleaseRevel or Chematic Im not to bothered about the 'rivet' count etc as long as it looks ok thanks for any replies of course 1/72 scale unless anyone knows different Simple formula: AVRO Shackleton = 40,000 rivets in loose formation......................! Selwyn (what the type was commonly known as in the RAF!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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