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About Selwyn

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  1. Falklands Harrier GR.3 question

    Gloss green They didn't weather thatbadly at all as the rear hot nozzles got all the abuse! Selwyn
  2. Fairey Albacore in Far East Service Questions ?

    As these aircraft were from storage (maybe in boxed up condition) they most probably not even painted to the current regulation camoflage schemes, They were more probably finished to the mandated standard extant when they were manufactured/packed. Normally they would only be repainted to current camoflage standards on issue to squadrons, but due to the emergency and need for these aircraft I would have thought any repainting or marking would have been pretty low on the "to do" list. Just pure speculation! Selwyn
  3. Precise blues for Blue Steel??

    The introduction of Blue Steel missile into service coincided with the RAF adopting the NATO weapon colour marking system (1963/64).This system introduced a light blue identification colour for Practice ammunition. The NATO standard quoted US FS paint system colours, but permitted the use of national standard equivalent colours, therefore the RAF selected "equivalent" colours from the British BS381c colour palette that it used for all British military equipment. The equivalent colour selected for the blue practice marking was BS 381c 102 Turquoise blue, and the first Blue steel practice rounds were painted this colour. However this colour was soon deemed to be too light and not consistent with the NATO FS blue colour, so the standard practice blue colour was then changed to BS381c 113 Deep Saxe Blue. The Blue steel practice missiles were eventually repainted in this colour. Deep Saxe Blue is the colour that is still currently used for British practice munitions. Selwyn
  4. 1950's RAF Vehicles

    The RAF vehicles in Germany in the 1950s were deep bronze green, not blue grey, and a lot of German manufactured vehicles such as VW beetles and kombis were used as utility vehicles, along with German made fuel refuellers and GS lorries. Type in "Jever steam laundry" in your search engine and browse the pictures in there (warning there are a lot!) hidden in there are a lot of images of RAF vehicles of the period. (The jever station and 4 sqn images have some good refueller pictures!) Selwyn
  5. Hoping for advice on building Lancaster EE133 UM-C2

    Bomb wise as far as I know, Lancaster could carry both the small and large versions of the SBC. One Lancaster large SBC could carry 360 x 4lb incendiaries. so 1080 x 4lb would go into three SBC's. Each Lancaster large SBC could carry 14 x 30lb incendiaries so 56 x 30 would go into four SBC's. for a total of seven SBC's in the bomb load. the 4 X 4lb bomb had a small explosive charge inside to dissuade German firefighters from trying to put them out. they could have either 2 or 4 second delays on them, all 4lb incendiary bomb loads always contained some 4X bombs. Selwyn
  6. 55 seconds?

    A year ago I couldn't spell armourer now I are one! Selwyn
  7. 55 seconds?

    I understand that the original load of the 109 was 1000 rnd's per gun on the fuselage Mg17 guns, this was reduced to 500rnds on aircraft fitted with the Motor cannon firing through the propellor hub, They obviously used the space released for the 20,mm ammunition tank. the Fuselage MG 17 fired at a rate of about 17 rounds per second (due to the propellor syncronisation) so 1000 rnd's would last for about 55 seconds but obviously around 25-30 seconds for 500 rnds. I think Mr Holland is a bit of a con man on this. He is implying that the BF 109 had 55 seconds of 20mm fire, when in fact it was 55 seconds of 7.92mm (roughly equivelant of the RAF .303 round ), but the wing mounted MGFF cannons only had 60 round drums (that were routinely reduced to 55 rnds due to feed reliability issues) which actually gave only around 7 seconds of 20mm fire. Both Spitfire and Hurricane had eight belt-fed .303" (7.7mm) Browning guns mounted four in each wing outside the propeller disk. Rate of fire was 20 rounds per second per gun (160 rps overall) and the cartridge fired ball, AP, tracer or incendiary bullets weighing around 11.3 grams at around 740 m/s (2,430 fps). Total weight of projectiles fired was 1.8 kg (4 lb) per second. Discounting the 20mm for one moment, the 109 Mg 17 fired 17 rounds per sec (RPS), 2 guns thats collectively 34 rps. Assuming that the bullet was a similar size and similar weight as .303, that works out at about a total weight of projectiles fired at around 390-400g per second. (I am not sure if the germans used AP, tracer or incendiary bullet variants) thats around a quarter of the weight fired by the RAF aircraft in the same 1 second time frame . That tells me that after the first 7 seconds of fire when the cannons ran out, the BF 109 had a significant disadvantage as to the amount of damage it could do to a manouvering target in its sights compared to the Spitfire and Hurricane. Hitting a manouvering aircraft in combat is difficult, so you need to get as many rounds as possible down the barrels on target in the short time you have him in the sight. The RAF aircraft obviously did this better than the 109. Would you prefer 16 seconds of concentrated firepower than 7 secs of 20mm ( at just 9rps) combined with 48 seconds of weak punch? Selwyn
  8. How to build a Sea Venom the hard way

    I heard about this, apparently some Australian bloke who looks after venoms ?? Selwyn
  9. As Mr Chally has said, the tractors were usually RAF blue grey 633. I have a few colour pictures of tractors towing ground equipment and the colour contrast is quite striking. The colour looks a bit brighter than this panel in real life , probably due to the vagaries of the internet. For those in the UK this colour was used as the background on the original UK Motorway signs until they went with a more reflective coating system. The argentine air force also had the canberra loader but they used it for other things as well; (Scroll down to the third picture) http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=com_deeppockets&task=catContShow&cat=22&id=1941&Itemid=1 Selwyn
  10. This is a Type C bomb trolley (Left) fitted with canberra carrier loading rails and a canberra loading trolley Mk 2 (right) in the process of loading a triple carrier to the aircraft. Its a Mk 2 loading trolley as it has external power connections (see just to the left of the guy pushing the loader) the both painted in BS381c 169 traffic blue. The Bomb trolley seems to have white painted side rails. The triple bomb carrier was slid off the end of the rails onto the canberra loader head and then loaded into the bomb bay. This loading system was introduced with canberra B2 , and I have a picture of this system being used to load a canberra in cyprus during Suez crisis. The Tractor you refer to would be suitable depending how accurate you want to be the postwar version was slightly different in the radiator front bumper area Tractor towing a C type followed by an F type ; http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-suez-crisis-1956-raf-ground-crew-loading-bombs-onto-canberras-on-an-20197446.html Selwyn
  11. Lewis Gun magazines-does anyone make them in 1/72?

    Please note that here are two types of Lewis gun magazines (47 and 97 rounds) the 97 round version is much deeper in profile than the 47rnd version. The magazines are very detailed with many annular ribs so just cutting a slice off a rod may not cut the mustard. A lot of people confuse the Lewis gun magazines with the Vickers K gun (VGO) magazine which was a different item much plainer in detail. (They also frequently get the guns mixed up as well!) a 97 round mag - http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Lewis_gun_aircraft_magazine.htm - a 47 round mag - scroll down for details http://www.allworldwars.com/Lewis-Automatic-Machine-Gun-1916.html Don't confuse with this - http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?31992-Vickers-k-gun-magazine Lewis guns were very rarely used on WW2 RAF aircraft having been superceded in use in the mid 30's by the Vickers K which was the RAF standard free gun (i.e. not turret mounted) for WW2. Selwyn
  12. F-86 Sabre Drop Tanks: Type Review

    just what I was looking for! Many thanks! Interestingly all RAF sabres flew with 100 gallon tanks . But don't panic, this isn't another type of tank not listed above by Sabrejet, but something to do with the fact that 120 US Gallons Converts to 99.9 Imperial gallons, and the RAF of course used Imperial capacities! So if you see a reference to 100 gallon tanks that's what its about. Selwyn
  13. Loaded for Bear... or not?

    These are of course drill sidewinders not operational missiles seen on this red arrows hawk, so strictly peacetime! Selwyn
  14. Loaded for Bear... or not?

    Depends if you are "going to war" or day to day training operations. In the first instance its HE bombs and live missiles, in the second its practice bomb carriers, acquisition missiles ACMI pods etc The day to day stuff is always more common! Selwyn
  15. F86 Sabre drop tanks

    Looking at Sabre jets, just how many types of drop tanks were used on the aircraft? there seem to be US manufactured and Japanese manufactured tanks, some marks of sabre seem to have different tanks to others, and no doubt there were other types used as well from other user countries production. Can anyone help? Selwyn (Bit confused on this!)