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  1. Hi Laurie, Harrier GR9/9As may be grey but they are all unique! Two things to help you... A how to build the Hasegawa/Revell kit I put together a while back plus info on seat and pilot: http://harriersig.org.uk/models/index.htm A very useful reference book, for which I don't get royalties... Let me know which serial number you intend to finish the model as and I'kll dig out some photos to help you; drop me a PM with your direct e-mail address in it. Cheers, Nick
  2. Really nice work Giemme; arrived late to this thread, sorry. On the stencils, one word of advice... each Harrier had some stencils - like the footprints on the LERX in slightly different places. So if you want 100% accuracy refer to photos is my advice. I think, from the scheme colours, you're making ZD433/45A, yes? If you drop me a PM with your e-mail address in, I'll send you some photos to help including of her out in theatre. This book may help too, if it hasn't already, for future GR9s if not this one... (No, I' don't get royalties folks!) Good luck with it... It's all downhill (easier!) from here! Looking forward to seeing it finished soon. Ciao, Nick
  3. It's why I'm experimenting with how to best depict what you can see in 1:24th scale... 5 thou high ribs on their own look to stark 10 thou are too proud, even when faired in with Vallejo tube filler and then sanded down - not right 5 thou under Tamiya tape is better but the tape itself may be too apparent under paint - will find out in an hour or two after coating one side of the completed rudder which has already had 4 coats of Klear on it to seal the tape and try and blend the edges. Looking at the black aileron there's a distinct shadow between the hinge points... On with the alchemy!
  4. Hi Work In Progress, Many thanks for your comments, links and the photo of P9374. The port aileron on that provides me with a good start for what I need - great! For the avoidance of confusion, let me explain my request in new words... Rib tapes - yep, got those, chord-wise over the ribs. But, there's also leading edge and trailing edge tapes which go over those and, under them, some spanwise tapes - if the ailerons are given similar treatment to the rudder and elevators. The picture of the unpainted aileron in Andy Saunders' 'Spitfire P9374' book shows a spanwise tape, underneath the rib tapes, on the top of the aileron which intersects the hinge joints; almost as is reinforcing for the point where the metal leading edge part stops and the fabric begins. It's similar to the tapes on the elevator upper surface at the same point by the hinge slots and the top to bottom tape on the rudder, visible in other photos. It's evidence of that spanwise raised ssection between the aileron hinge points which I've been looking for. I hope that resolves any confusion caused so far. Cheers Nick
  5. Keep up the good work Pappy, you're doing a fine job. I've just put up what follows on another SHAR thread on this forum; apologies for repetition. For those in doubt about the Kinetic kits I'd refer you to the following comments by a late friend of mine, Steve Hague, from when the Harrier SIG built thirty (yes, 30!) 1:48th scale Airfix FA.2s for 899 Naval Air Squadron's decommissioning dinner in March 2005... (At that time the Airfix kit was the only game in town.) Cheers Nick "Let's build an Airfix SHAR FA2... Suitable only for well-adjusted adults who are not prone to bouts of unrestrained rage, swearing or self-harm. A full command of the builder's own language and vocabulary would be useful to alleviate the monotony of using the same choice expressions over and over again, especially when applying the decals. It is recommended that the builder takes regular breaks to avoid stress build-up, as well as allowing occasional exposure to natural light as this model may take a while. This model is not designed for flight and has not been stressed for sudden impact with walls or floor. Caveat emptor...! Might we also take the opportunity to recommend some useful products which might come in handy when making this kit. Humbrol Model Filler One large tube per kit should suffice - apply kit to filler, rather than vice versa Humbrol Medium Sea Grey Available in a variety of shades - including dark green in a tin labelled 165 it seems Wet & Dry - various grades As much as you can carry, maybe more Book of Eastern Meditation To bang your head on Prozac - Extra Strong As much as you can 'score' locally Telephone no. for Samaritans Just in case it’s all too much......!" Frequent calls may be needed. Remembering that we are model-makers and, having built 14 Airfix SHAR FRS.1s/FA.2s and 2 GR.3s, all I can say is - "Thank goodness for Kinetic!" Cheers, Nick
  6. Keep up the good work Shaun. Imagine one 1:48th build is 2 or 3 1:72nd scale ones For those in doubt about the Kinetic kits I'd refer you to the following comments by a late friend of mine, Steve Hague, from when the Harrier SIG built thirty (yes, 30!) 1:48th scale Airfix FA.2s for 899 Naval Air Squadron's decommissioning dinner in March 2005... (At that time the Airfix kit was the only game in town.) Cheers Nick "Let's build an Airfix SHAR FA2... Suitable only for well-adjusted adults who are not prone to bouts of unrestrained rage, swearing or self-harm. A full command of the builder's own language and vocabulary would be useful to alleviate the monotony of using the same choice expressions over and over again, especially when applying the decals. It is recommended that the builder takes regular breaks to avoid stress build-up, as well as allowing occasional exposure to natural light as this model may take a while. This model is not designed for flight and has not been stressed for sudden impact with walls or floor. Caveat emptor...! Might we also take the opportunity to recommend some useful products which might come in handy when making this kit. Humbrol Model Filler One large tube per kit should suffice - apply kit to filler, rather than vice versa Humbrol Medium Sea Grey Available in a variety of shades - including dark green in a tin labelled 165 it seems Wet & Dry - various grades As much as you can carry, maybe more Book of Eastern Meditation To bang your head on Prozac - Extra Strong As much as you can 'score' locally Telephone no. for Samaritans Just in case it’s all too much......!" Frequent calls may be needed. Remembering that we are model-makers and, having built 14 Airfix SHAR FRS.1s/FA.2s and 2 GR.3s, all I can say is - "Thank goodness for Kinetic!"
  7. Correct Bill - EDSG for the fuselage decking under the canopy and the canopy rails on the cockpit sides; DAG for the internal sliding canopy framing. Thankfully you have the intake interiors correct Seen way too many SHAR FRS1s in the EDSG/W or overall EDSG Falklands schemes with white/LAG intake interiors. Enjoy you hols. Cheers Nick
  8. Hi chaps, Anyone up for a challenge to help a major Spitfire build? I'll whisper the words: Fabric Ailerons. What I need to help me are photos of the fabric taping on both surfaces, specifically the location of the span-wise tapes at about the back of the hinge slots. The top surface I may be ok with - photo in Andy Saunders excellent book P9374. The under surface is another matter; no photos in all the usual sources, including umpteen Aeroplane and Fly Past magazines. Any photos of the fabric ailerons fitted to P9374 or N3200 - the only flying Spitfires with fabric ailerons - showing the line of the tapes would be very welcome. (The images of P9306 from Steve N in this thread and those of P9444 elsewhere on BM show both aircraft now have metal ailerons fitted. As this mod reached the squadrons and OTUs from Sept/Oct 1940, all remaining fabric ailerons would have been replaced on Spitfire Mk.Is in those units. This is why the ailerons on the restored P9374 and N3200 had to be specially made and are the first fabric Spitfire ailerons produced since 1940.) Thank you. Nick
  9. Very quickly... Cockpit colour - Matt DSG works fine in this scale. Rear decking colour - Gloss EDSG. So the above looks ok to me Cheers Nick
  10. Hi Pappy, Looking good so far. One very quick thing to correct in the third photo down... The GTS/APU outlet did not have a mesh covering at the bottom of the hole. Indeed, it was just a hole into the unit's exhaust which would soon have cleared anything out. So, remove the mesh from the port side opening. The outlet was literally an oblong box, so you could use 5 thou styrene sheet to make a small box and place it in there. It was in effect, just the same on the later GR.9s. Good luck! Nick
  11. Hi everyone, Late to the party on this but a few points to help you out Jon... On the EDSG - On both Hermes (brush painted) and Invincible (spray painted, as they had extractors in the hangars) there is a difference in tone between the original upper surface EDSG and the lower surface EDSG, caused by it being applied directly over white, meaning that it looks a bit lighter. Sometimes that comes through in b+w as well as colour photos. I'm lucky enough to have copies of some of Dick Ward's photos of Invinc's SHARs when they returned to the UK. The one aircraft that looks more evenly coloured is XZ455/000 which had cross-decked from Hermes when that carrier sailed for home and appears to have received quite a respray; yet to be confirmed. I'm also lucky to have some of Robin Walker's colour photos of the aircraft of both air ships' air groups when they arrived back in Portsmouth, which show this. On the white over-painted blue roundel portions - Again, as the blue was applied over white, the SHARs of both ships' air groups had a lighter shade of blue visible in this area which does show up better in b+w than some colour images. This was something the late David Howley and I tried to achieve and I think successfully did achieve in the Xtradecals Falklands SHARs set. Sadly, Kinetic didn't quite pick this up in their decal sheet. It also means that 801's blue side code numbers should be a tad lighter than the roundel outer ring, as should the blue painted codes on ZA193/93 and XZ500/30 of the Hermes' SHARs. Note too that the underside roundels of ZA193/93 were left R/W/B while the underwing codes for XZ459/25 were not over-painted. Equally, the airbrake numbers of some of Hermes's SHARs is yet to be confirmed due to possible clashes... It is believed that XZ460/26 was 6, while the ex-899 NAS SHAR XZ494/16 carried no airbrake code. The image in David Morgan's excellent book "Hostile Skies" showing the airbrake chaff fit is believed to be of XZ494/16, which had R/W/B underwing roundels when the photo was taken. It's not known if they were subsequently made into R/B roundels. As XZ494 also cross-decked to Invinc and became a replacement 008 for them, we may never know for sure which coloured underwing roundels it flew from Hermes with on operations unless new photos appear. This brightening of the colour from being applied directly over white also applied in 2010 on GR.9A ZG477, the 1(F) Squadron special scheme Harrier, which is why the red portions of its fin sometime look more orange than red in photos. A fact not recognised by the die-cast producers despite being told of it! Falklands SHARs may be EDSG overall but they are not a dull subject. Indeed, we've only scratched the surface here! Hope it helps. Cheers Nick
  12. Hi everyone, For the record, the pilot in the upper of Dave's two photos is Lt Clive Morrell (aka Spag... as in spaghetti morelli!) while Flt Lt Dave Morgan is in the lower image. (Ranks given as in 1982.) Pappy, I'll be in direct contact in reply to your question via messenger soon... Cheers Nick
  13. For completeness, the ones you queried directly above Nick B are on a Sea Harrier FA2 with the upper dog tooth faired-in, an extra wing fence and one less vortex gen (where the gap is) than the SHAR FRS1 had. Statement of fact... Please note that some scale plans and profiles have got these wing differences badly wrong - giving the FRS1 an FA2's wing fit. Caveat emptor for the otherwise excellent Warpaint SHAR book where, despite those errors being flagged when they were produced no acknowledgement has been received. The same artist's Harrier profiles in other publications should also be checked; as I've seen the error repeated. It's a bit like showing a Spitfire Mk.IX as a BoB aircraft of the time in a profile I suppose. Hope that helps. Cheers Nick
  14. Doh. If only Andy and I had had access to photos like that when we were writing the GR9/T12 book Warris! Happy fettling! Cheers Nick
  15. Hi Al, This may help you scratch build them... Length: 7ft 2ins (2.18m), Diameter: 1ft 1in (0.33m). Hope that helps. Cheers Nick