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  1. The FRS1 wings have all vortex generators Nick. Cheers
  2. Hi everyone, Gary - (from page 1) Just to clarify you WILL be able to build a TAV-8A or TAV-8S from the Kinetic Harrier T2/4/8 kit, but will need the US style Stencil IIIS seats, which can be obtained as resins from Wingman models, ref WMF48002. The kit was originally intended to be issued with UK markings only but minds changed it seems! You will NOT be able to build a 2nd generation Harrier II AV-8B / TAV-8B from the Kinetic kit. In 1/48th scale there are the Hasegawa/Revell boxings in 1/48th scale. I'm not going to mention Trumpeter's 1/32nd scale effort as that needs so much work - see previous BM threads by Piero De Santis. In 1/48th scale, who knows what Kinetic may do next...? Selwyn et al, Despite a lot of input from two IPMS(UK) Harrier SIG members (Chocks Away and me) with the two-seater kit on the airframe side (NOT the ordnance CADs) there are some known issues with the kit we are "disappointed/frustrated" with but which, presumably, are brought about by the economics of kit production... The BIG POSITIVE! - For the first time ever you have a 1/48th scale first generation Harrier two-seater kit which will enable you to make all marks of the aircraft - the T2, T2A (more powerful engine), T4 (more powerful engine again), T4A - pointed nose, RWR fin, original tail-sting, T4N (Navalised T4 for SHAR FRS1 training) and T8 (uprated for FA2 training with Doppler panel bulge ahead of front u/c bay) - with two nose options (original/LRMTS), 3 fin options (original/tall/RWR fitted), 2 tail-sting options (original/RWR) and a separate Doppler panel for the T8. Overall, the fuselage, cockpits, canopies, noses, fins and tail-stings are accurate. The kit instructions do provide guidance on the nose/fin/tail-sting combination needed for each marking provided. The BIG thing to remember with first generation two-seater Harriers is that the mark reference T2-4 does NOT indicate what nose/fin/tail-sting combination was fitted; but refers to the mark of Pegasus engine fitted. That's why you see T2s and T4s with original and tall fins, original or laser noses and original or RWR fitted tail stings. Yes, it's a minefield! BUT... DON'T PANIC! The Harrier SIG has this covered and will be publishing guidance at Scale ModelWorld. Yes, you will also be able to make G-VTOL from the kit, with a few scratch-built additions; the VAAC Harrier two, with even more scratch-built items, e.g. the under fuselage pods. As mentioned above, you can also make TAV-8A and TAV-8S from the kit, with replacement seats. Sadly, no Indian Navy T60 markings included but, if you have a Kinetic FRS1 kit you could raid that for markings. The Not So Goods - from Selwyn's comments on the sprues... Inboard pylons - Yes, they have the kinked leading edge are of the type used exclusively by the Royal navy single seat Sea Harrier and are not representative of the two-seater or GR1/3 / AV-8A/S pylons. To fix > A bit of judicious cutting and sanding. Rocket pods - These were wrong in the SHAR FRS1 kit and are on the same sprue form that kit as the FRS1 type wings; need for the two-seater, so Kinetic have added an existing sprue to the box, rather than use a new sprue. In the FRS1 they were meant to be the RN 2-inch pods but someone clearly mis-interpreted things. No easy fix! The wing outriggers appear to be moulded with groundlocks fitted which is OK for a parked aircraft but not good for a taxying jet diorama. They may also have the SHAR tie-down rings on. Both canopies have laser-cut MDCs in them - beautifully rendered. Seat straps - at least we got the long versions which can be cut down; rather than the other way around! IFR probe - Despite saying the longer two-seater version was needed, only a single seat probe has been provided. To fix > add a short extension from rod. Agreed on all other ordnance comments - We suggested what should be included, e.g. 330 gallon tanks, CBLS units, providing RTS information for the two-seaters to Kinetic but what we got was SHAR stuff, the majority of which cannot be fitted as it was not carried. So, we'll need to go aftermarket for those. (Come on you after-market guys, get in the mix, there's money to be made from Harriers! Stores, corrected IFR probe, VAAC and G-VTOL modifications, so do something different please than your usual PE for cockpits or resin MB.Mk9 seats. Thanks!) As mentioned briefly above, after a lot of work by Chocks Away (with a little help from me) at SMW in November, the Harrier SIG will have some information sheets available to help people with their two-seater builds. To save on mass printing, these will be laminated draft copies not to be taken away. Once finalised, we'll upload the pdfs to the Harrier SIG site (from where they can be downloaded with a link to their location their on BM) after the show when we have had a chance to look at the sprues "in the plastic", so to speak. Patience please! I ask you here NOT to pester us for information before we are 100% happy to release it, thank you. Good things come to those who wait... Like this kit. Fo which, I must say a very big THANK YOU! to Raymond and all his team at Kinetic for doing what no British or other kit manufacturer has yet done, despite many requests... Kinetic have given us (i.e. you!) not only the best SHAR kits yet produced but have now given us (i.e. you, again!) a first ever styrene kit in 1/48th scale of a two-seater first generation Harrier. Yes, with the above items all fixed, it could have been 100%. But, we have an accurate airframe to work with and, we are all model makers, aren't we? So what's to stop all/any of us from being able to make some fantastic Harrier two-seater models from the kit. I look forward to seeing many on BM in the future... and at SMW too. Talking of the future, I believe that Kinetic still intend to release models of all the UK Harrier family in 1/48th scale, which means the GR1/3 and GR5-9 plus the T10/12 will follow; which equals lots of Harriers to look forward to! If you want second generation AV-8Bs and TAV-8Bs too, then I suggest you contact Kinetic via Facebook and let them know there's a demand out there. Best wishes, happy (vertical) landings! Nick (Now to get back to GR9A ZG477...)
  3. AV-8B Harrier II FSD #3 Safety Chase

    Thanks again for another great story and set of photos Sven. Cheers Nick
  4. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    Thanks for the info on the cameras and contraption Sven, or should I be calling you Keith? I trust you were not the F16 pilot involved in the LCO event... nor had any similar experiences. Cheers Nick
  5. Harrier GR.5 at Red Flag 91-3

    Happy to help Sven. The 'Desert Pink' Phimat is a 'relic' from the RAF's Jaguars which used them in the 1st Gulf War. Cheers, Nick
  6. Harrier GR.5 at Red Flag 91-3

    Just found this thread too Sven. It's rare to see new photos of UK GR.5s, so its excellent to see these; thank you! I thought you may be interested in the brief aircraft histories as there some famous UK Harriers in the group, plus a couple of losses, after they were upgraded to GR.7 or GR.9 standard (Serial / build number fin code): ZD352 /19 > 19 mission markings from Op Telic. Longest serving GR.9A on Op Herrick, 514 days; with IV(R) Squadron (the OCU) when Joint Force Harrier disbanded in Dec 2010, carrying pilot's name LT HOGG. ZD375 / 23 > The 20(R) Squadron display aircraft in 2001 with the pale blue fin. ZD400 / 30 > As a GR.5 crashed near RAF Wittering on 19-May-97; pilot ejected safely. ZD401 / 31 > With IV(R) Squadron when Joint Force Harrier disbanded in Dec 2010, carrying pilot's name LT CDR FRANCIS. ZD404 / 33 > As a GR.7A fly on Op Herrick with name 'Lucy' and black female silhouette plus 19x E-Paveway and, 3x 540lb bomb mission markings. Not upgraded to GR.9 standard. ZD405 / 34 > As a GR.7 flew on Op Warden coded white WC and early onOp Herrick still with the insignia of the Fast Jet Weapons Operational Evaluation Unit on its fin. One of the last GR.9 conversions had yet to fly when JFH disbanded. ZD406 / 35 > As a GR.7 flew on Op Warden coded white WB. As a GR.9 carried the Fly Navy 100th Anniversary of UK naval aviation fin markings. ZD408 / 37 > As a GR.7 flew on Op Warden coded white WK with a huge shark's mouth. Op Telic - 37 and another large shark's mouth, with mission markings. GR.7A coded 37A on Op Herrick it had 4x EPW mission markings applied. Crashed 16-Jun-08 into a field near RAF Cottesmore, pilot ejected safely. ZD411 / 40 > As a GR.7 used for AGM-65 Maverick trials at NAWS China Lake in May-99 and flew on Op Herrick as a GR.7A coded 40A. Last flying GR.7A with IV(AC) Sqn on 31-Mar-10. Not upgraded to GR.9 standard. ZD412 / 41 > As GR.5 AH with 3(F) Squadron (s0 in the markings seen) left runway while landing at RAFG Gutersloh, pilot ejected, aircraft ended up in Ems Canal. Cheers Nick
  7. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    John has replied that he flew AV-8B FSD#2 161397 from Jan to end of April 83 at Edwards AFB wearing a white helmet and orange overalls; so it could be him. Cheers Nick
  8. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    Other possibles are Charlie Plummer and John Fawcett.
  9. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    Thanks Sven. That's quite some structure at the back: anti-spin parachute housing, or...? Are they two cameras ahead of the flap on the wings, facing front and rear? Cheers Nick
  10. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    Checking with John...
  11. Nick,


    No problem with getting these to the Harrier SIG. 


    I just make sure I've got the copyright statement on them as I've had a couple of images published without credit. I haven't gotten to the point of putting the copyright over the subject of the image, yet.



    1. NG899


      Thank you Sven, that's very kind of you.  If you're into Harriers, please do drop by the SIG site - link under my signature in the post - and have a look there at what's on offer; more in the members section should you wish to join but I can maybe get round that as 'fair exchange'.  Cheers, Nick

  12. AV-B Harrier Safety Chase Photos

    Excellent photos Sven; thank you for sharing them! Can you remember who the pilot was on these flights? I know John Farley flew this Harrier II around May 1982 but I'm not sure if he was out there in 83 too. I hope you don't mind if I share them more widely with members of the IPMS(UK)'s Harrier Special Interest Group? Best wishes Nick
  13. Harrier ZD379 Retirerment flight

    Iain, Drop me a PM with your e-mail address in it and I'll send you some images of her on 15th December 2010. Cheers Nick
  14. Hi Pappy, the yaw vane swivels freely on top of the pylon so it always points into wind. So, as Bootneck says, if parked and the wind across the deck is coming from the stern, then the vane could be pointing as is. I would say that would have been a rare occurrence as during ops the ships would be moving forward pretty constantly to avoid being a sitting target and to avoid the SHARs having to do crosswind vertical landings wherever possible. Harriers are very delicate in the hover in high crosswinds, which is why the yaw vane was invented for them, to allow the pilot to keep the jet pointed into wind. Hi Bootneck, an interesting painting of Hermes; those two must have been very low on fuel to approach from there. Yes, cross-deck landings (i.e. 90-degrees across the deck, aiming for just ahead of the flyco in the island or aft of the island - where no aircraft were parked (not as shown), were used when high crosswinds made a normal bow-facing landing impractical for SHARs. The normal approach, as I'm sure you know, was parallel to the carrier's port side over the sea, hover level with mid-ships where the effects of roll/pitch are minimal, then transition over the deck and get it down! SHARs would not have taken off loaded on ops during Op Corporate without using the ski-jump. The fleet was kept well away from the islands, so aircraft on CAP had a fair haul to station and a vertical take-off would have needed a lot of fuel, resulting in minimal time over the islands for the effort expended of getting two winders there. Without the ski-jump a stern take-off would have resulted in a ditching as the aircraft would not have reached flying speed for the wings to work and, without the upward trajectory, even a hit to full down nozzles by the pilot would not have enabled a fully loaded SHAR to avoid the briny beyond the stern. That's why all the Invincible class plus Hermes had ski jumps fitted in the first place, to facilitate the rolling short take-off getting them airborne rather than waterborne. Dinner calls! Cheers for now. Nick
  15. Harrier ZD379 Retirerment flight

    Hi Iain, Find a copy of the old AIRframe decal sheet which will have all the details and decals on it you need; if in doubt PM me for more info. The full details needed for ZD379 are: ZD379 had the pilot’s name FLT M ROBERTSON in black lettering applied to the starboard side of the nose underneath the cockpit sill. A replacement port LERX and both tailplanes were Dark Sea Grey on the upper surfaces and Dark Camouflage Grey on the undesides. The starboard aileron was also Dark Sea Grey on the upper surfaces and Dark Camouflage Grey on the undersides. The tailplane sealing plates - know as ‘Bacon Slicers’ for their reputation of removing fingers - were Medium Sea Grey top and bottom on both sides. ZD379 had the 65% LERX fit, with Pink and Dark Sea Grey ‘NO STEP’ markings on the port side, Red and Dark Sea Grey ‘NO STEP’ markings on the starboard side LERX. Both engine bays had Red and Dark Sea Grey ‘NO STEP’ markings on them. The leading edge protection erosion tape on the fin, both outer wings and both tailplanes was new, so on both wings it was clear outboard of the wing fence and on the fin and tailplanes leading edges was clear - use Clear gloss varnish. The tape on the inboard wings was discoloured. No fuselage centre-line pylon was carried. The starboard BOL rail was Dark Camouflage Grey, the port BOL rail was Medium Sea Grey; both were empty. The rear fuselage on both sides was very heavily stained by the exhausts; in fact it almost looked to have been painted sooty black! Out of interest, why ZD379? Cheers Nick