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  1. 3 hours ago, Jeff.M said:

    This is a bit off the wall, and I was unsure whether to post this question here or in general discussion. But since it is on topic to this build, here goes. Pontos provides some very fine PE fire axes. I have a fair number of reference photos showing the locations of these axes, mounted on weather deck bulkheads. But the photos are, as so usually maddeningly frustrating, in black and white. What color were they?  The axes are just dark and could be anywhere  on the color spectrum. Does anyone have any info as to whether these axes were painted red?  My inclination is to paint them so. Just wondering if anyone knows. 
     

    Best,

     

    Jeff

    Hi Jeff - Who the heck knows - go with your best instinct.  Jon suggested contacting Sackville - except that Sackville underwent several reconfigurations and in truth much of what she is now is secondarily "rebuilt".  I went around her last year - I'll check the pics but I can't recall seeing fire axes.  Interestingly AFV extinguishers were green (or original brass) for Brit forces up until comparatively recently ?80's or 90's. 

    For my money I'd leave them in wood or have them grey or green.  

    Your last outside hope is to post on the Flower Class association page on Facebook to see if any veteran can recall.  There are of course very sadly - few remaining.

    Rob

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  2. 7 hours ago, AstroCanary said:

    Really nicely done, Rob.

    Have a bit of a family connection with the flower-class: my great uncle was one of 53 who lost their lives when the Japanese bombed HMS Hollyhock off the coast of Sri Lanka.

    Thanks Rob

    HMS Hollyhock was one of the few Flowers to be lost in the East.

    It's still surprising how many people can reference a family relationship to the crew's of these vessels.

    Rob

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  3. Man cannot live by ships alone!

    I've been inspired by some of the recent builds and WIPs here in AFV so I've dug this out of the stash

     

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    This version has the transparent parts But also contains the original plastic opaque.  It was bought as I recall as it was cheaper.

    Knowng Bronco's reputation I anticipate it will be a detailed build - the instructions promise as much...

     

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    Instructions are line drawn and comprehensive

     

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    The scheme will depict a Wessex recon division vehicle and is likely to feature a single figure as yet undecided, together with some minor Panzer Art stowage which is winging it's way.

     

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    And here's one in the flesh

     

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    Construction begins with the engine though I'm not certain it will be on display

     

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    And chassis which is suitably complex and definitely un-Tamyia-like!

     

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    Fit is precise but fiddly and fitting the chassis sids involved some fettling...

     

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    More soon - Thanks for looking

    Rob

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  4. Well as promised - here's some pics of my Swordfish Models Delivery.

     

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    I've been waiting to order for some while and was interested to see how they'd compare to Micromaster and :cat:.  It's a shame that they have replicated many offerings already long available in the aforementioned ranges (art least for RN items).  Delivery is also pricey at a flat 15 Euros to UK (from Belguim).  

    Unique to their range is the dedicated RN bridge equipment, Air lookouts and the 30ft Motor Pinnace that I'd not come across before.

     

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    The pieces are well printed with delicate attachment points that should be easy to free up.  They'll only really show up after painting.  I especially like the voice tubes that festooned RN WW2 bridges.  Black Cat do them as singles 

     

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    Detail is not as sharp as Micromoaster IMHO

    The winch set does not appear in any other range and though mundane will be very useful on larger ships

     

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    I was expecting big things with the ladder set but to my mind they are siginifcantly undersized - certainly too narrow for RN ladders.  I've included a Micromaster offering in the photo which I feel is slightly too large and also an etched Infini offering whihch to my eye seems the right size.  I struggle with etched ladders and would have liked a reliable set of 3D printed offerings - these unfortunately are not them...

     

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    We'll see how the above look when they come to be painted.

    Rob

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  5. 2 hours ago, Ngantek said:

    Whoops, missed the start. I'm all about this, my grandad was in Hunts most of the war, so it's a real treat to see one done to your standard. Looks like a great start, you've got that confounded wool to come out really well this time on the sea base; and all that jubbliness around the bridge looks really sharp. I never could work out how those twin Oerikons fitted on Hunt wings, so you've very much solved the problem for me! Thanks!

     

    The front of the bridge, I've always found hard to pin down. That close in view that you have is one of a series taken by the Manchester I assume during Operation Substance in July '41 (several more can be seen in Man'o'war #4 by Raven and Roberts). She's also in that earlier scheme of what I assume is 507A hull, 507C (?) upperworks and that entirely flat bridge front. I'm not utterly convinced that the raised ridge running vertically down the sides of the bridge face isn't still there in that later photo with the bow chaser. Does anyone know what the purpose of those was in any case? I've never quite worked out when they started being fitted or why they existed.

     

    I suspect you're right about that picture from the stern (IWM; it's on wiki as 'Malta 41') actually being post refit in 42-43. Eridge (see below) was still in the 507A/507C at the time of her near- sinking in Aug'42, after 2nd Battle of Sirte where Avon vale was first damaged and headed off to the UK for refit. 

     

    That HACS tower looks really good. I notice Micromaster are doing this one now (mkV** 285p (5pointed) ?? or something 🤷‍♂️) where they didn't before, but I can only see 600 and 700 scale, not the 350. How did you come by it?

     

    If you haven't already, you should check out 'Red Tobruk' by Frank Gregory-Smith, who commanded HMS Eridge. She and Avonvale, along with Farndale and Heythrop formed a group of four from about May '41 and spent a lot of time together in the Med. It's a really good account of the desperate period in the Eastern Med from the second half of 41 to mid 42.

     

    Andy

     

     

    Thanks Andy - In the earlier set of pics from Manchester - divisions on the front of AV are definitely visible though nowhere near as pronounced as on the kit

    The later front-on photo does not appear on the net but does feature iin Les Browns "British Escort Destroyers".  I cannot see any "grid" markings with a magnifyer though it is possible :hmmm:

    If they are there, then they are not very prominent.

     

    As to the HACS..........I've used the "Tribal" offering from Micromaster......

    https://micromaster.co.nz/collections/royal-fire-control/products/1-350-royal-navy-rangefinder-director-mkiiw-type-285-mod-1-x1-rn-tribal-class

    It seems to be identical - though I have lopped the bottom off.

     

    To my miind the Wiki stern pic is definitley misattributed time-wise.  I'm certain that it represents AV 1944

    Wasn't aware of "Red Tobruk" - I'll check it out

    Regards

    Rob

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  6. So to the bridge - where most of Avon Vale's differences exist.

    The "wing" platform originally housed a single 20mm  Oerlikon each side.  It's apparent in this pic of AV before she had her bow torpedoed, with grateful acknowledgement to IWM collections

     

    SOLDIERS TAKE PASSAGE IN THE CRUISER HMS MANCHESTER. JULY 1941, ON BOARD MANCHESTER WHILE ON CONVOY DUTY IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. DURING THE VOYAGE SHE WAS STRUCK AND DAMAGED BY A TORPEDO.

     

    The gun platform - you will see extends forwards to the bridge "indent".  This is unusual for Hunt Type 2 vessels - most did not extend so far as is modelled by Atlantic 

     

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    I had been studioously "scraping" the side wall thinner until it dawned on me that there wasn't room to get a "Double" remote oerlikon in there as appears in later photos of AV :whistle:

     

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    Duhh - penny dropped...........................................

     

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    At the same time - I sanded back the raised "ridges" on the bridge frontage and covered with a smooth sheet of plasticard to match AV's later appearance

     

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    Then rebuilt the gun patform with it's distinctive "pocket" to allow full roatation of the double Oerlikon mount

     

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    Then set about Drilling and "squaring" the windows just below the wind deflectors....

     

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    Producing drilled "squares" using a file is always hard - this will just about do.  I presume this was the Asdic office atop the bridge

     

    Apr 07 2024_6301

     

    HINT - to produce the wiind deflectors - choose your horizontal piece - and stick it down onto masking tape that itself has been attached to a Takeaway container lid.  For the supports choose an appropriate width piece of plastuct rod - here it's 0.8mm.  cut pieces to length and using dilute PVA glue stick them to the horizontal piece.  The PVA will aloow you to fiddle and gt the spacing right.  when you are happy and with the glue drying, gently use some Tamiya Extra thin glue to touch the base attachments.  Let dry and this will leave you with serviceable wind deflectors.

     

     

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    There's a prominent duct visible in the photos - I first mistook it for stairs on the hull side-on view.

    Here it is modelled after carefully removing 2 deck lockers at the bridge base

     

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    I also carefully cut gratings out for the bridge from a White Ensigns set

     

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    And as you can see the oerlikon sits snugly, the HACs mounting has been sanded and the original Micromaster piece cut down to size.  It sat very snugly just above the aft bridge rail

     

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    More soon.

    I also received an order from "Swordfish Models" that I'll put up later on for interest together with my thoughts on the items

    Rob

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